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    Why the hate on solarpunk? Its just a utopian vision that is generally positive and socialist. Even if the anarchism part of it won’t work, still better than the dystopian nightmare we live in now.

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      Its just a utopian vision

      That’s why

      still better than the dystopian nightmare we live in now

      But it can’t come to fruition. If someone just treat it as fiction stress reliever, sure why not, but a lot of people take it way too seriously.

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        Communism is another utopian vision. But we should still strive to reach them, even if only half of the ideas of utopian visions are implement, it will better the current reality. Solarpunk as a movement as a vision for example promotes sustainable renewable energy tech which is inarguably something the world needs more of.

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          Communism is another utopian vision.

          No it isn’t, not under marxism.

          But we should still strive to reach them, even if only half of the ideas of utopian visions are implement, it will better the current reality. Solarpunk as a movement as a vision for example promotes sustainable renewable energy tech which is inarguably something the world needs more of.

          That’t the problem of utopianism though, it isn’t happening. To happen ot even get close it would need socialism as prerequisite and as China already shows, it’s completely redundant, only thing remaining is empty aesthetics. But then, why not actually support countries that do “promotes sustainable renewable energy tech which is inarguably something the world needs more of” but most solarpunk people i know or know of are anarchists fully on the “China bad” bandwagon.

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            21 hours ago

            Then maybe the solarpunk people you know did not understand what they stand for or much of anything really. All i am trying to say is all movements going towards the left are helpful to some degree, it would be smart to unite more and reach a form of socialism. Instead of fighting over which utopia might work or not, since in the end a utopia can by definition never be reached. Marxist communism also just stops short of advocating for the utopian vision communism, but it surely is the aim.