• Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world
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    So you can afford a few streaming services and have access to a supermarket?

    If you live in a society that cares about its citizens you also have free healthcare.

    That’s a very low bar to clear dude.

    I have all of those and still feel exploited as fuck by this capatilist bullshit.

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      why do you americans always go to healthcare but don’t even look at my name

      So you can afford a few streaming services and have access to a supermarket?

      do you need me to spell out every single major technological leap in the last 100 years for you or can type a few words in a search engine which searches all the worlds information and brings you results instantly?

      edit: would also like to point how just how much tech and innovation is involved in “a few streaming services” and supermarkets

      this was 30 years ago! 1989!

      The overall takeaway is that much of America’s greatness lies in the ordinary. “He toured New York City, he saw the Statue of Liberty, Trump Tower — he wasn’t impressed,” Mack said. “He saw NASA. Again, no big deal. But it was a grocery store that made him realize that communism is a lie.”

      https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/shows/houston-matters/2020/02/21/361467/boris-yelstins-1989-visit-to-a-houston-grocery-store-is-now-an-opera/

      supermarkets were only invented 100 years ago!

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        First, I’m Australian.

        Second, even very poor people like myself have access to those. They are common now.

        I am still exploited by capitalism and I feel it every day.

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          They are common now.

          I’d like to thank people like Nikola Tesla who grinded for electricity:

          Tesla’s workday typically began around 9 AM and extended until 6 PM, during which he immersed himself in the realms of electricity and mechanics. Known for his relentless work ethic, he often returned to his projects late into the night, sometimes working until 3 AM. He reflected his commitment to solitary pursuits that often led to groundbreaking discoveries.

          Interestingly, Tesla avoided lunch entirely, believing that excessive eating stifled creativity. He remarked, “Why overburden the bodies that serve us?” This philosophy extended to his critique of societal eating habits, as he noted in an interview, “People eat too much and exercise too little.”

          and all those who grind away at places like Netflix to provide incredible services ‘that are common now’

          Also like to thank the Shuji Nakamura who invented the Blue LED:

          Nakamura continued to develop the blue LED on his own and in 1993 succeeded in making the device.[13][12]

          And he worked 12 hour days 7 days a week for over a year:

          Why It Was Almost Impossible to Make the Blue LED

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF8d72mA41M

          Without him LCD screens wouldn’t be possible (which are common now).

          I am still exploited by capitalism and I feel it every day.

          How are you exploited by capitalism?

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            This comment is confusing to me because here it seems that you redefine the “grind” to mean being creative and productive with your work when the OP is rather clearly expressing that people do it as a means to increase their wealth specifically. A quick Google search suggested that although Tesla did make a lot of money off of his work, he didn’t use that money to live a lavish lifestyle but instead used it to fund more projects that he was interested it and by he time he died he was pretty much broke. He wasn’t a capitalist and wasn’t fueled by the idea of making a large fortune. Going back to OP’s context of the work “grind”, I think it’s accurate to say Tesla did not “grind for electricity”.

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              Thank you.

              I was going to mention the moving of the goalposts but I think you’ve done that nicely.

              I’m sure the inventors made bank. I shudder to think how many of those workers in this technological age are earning minimum wage.

              No matter how hard you grind, minimum wage is minimum wage and inflation is inflation.

              One goes up every year. The other does not.

              As to how I’m personally exploited? Well I live in Australia where massive tax breaks are given to wealthy property investors which allow them gentrify entire urban areas. Wealthy politicians own multiple properties which only incentivises them further.

              The people that grew up in those areas are priced out of their own market. There is a massive housing crisis down here in Australia and it’s all a result of rampant capitalism.

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                The other user is definitely of the mindset that just because they got lucky enough to get a job that they enjoy and make good money from, that everyone shares that privlage and the same opportunities they’ve been given in life. Unfortunately some people just can’t understand that not everyone is born to the same level of fortune.

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                No matter how hard you grind, minimum wage is minimum wage and inflation is inflation.

                This makes no sense, if you are grinding you should be improving, I have no idea how you got the idea that grinding means working 80 hours a week in a shit job to go no where.

                This is like pre-grinding: aim higher than a minimum wage shitjob? who seriously aims this low?

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              OP is rather clearly expressing that people do it as a means to increase their wealth specifically

              Good for them?

              he didn’t use that money to live a lavish lifestyle but instead used it to fund more projects that he was interested it

              Good for him?

              Nobody holds a gun to your head and forces you to buy a lambo, if you want to FIRE or become a power lifter or do something else go for it

              It’s ultimately about effort, easiest example is people who spend 2 minutes a day on Duolingo and expect to become fluent in their chosen language and those who grind it out and spend hours a day working on it because they want it.

              You may not necessarily enjoy it but you do it, it goes back to discipline etc last post here

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                I have no idea what you are talking about anymore. It seems to me that your idea of what the “grind” is, is you’re own interpretation that doesn’t match what anyone else here is talking about. You have taken the entire post and each other comment completely out of context.