Microsoft’s AI CEO, Mustafa Suleyman, has shared his opinion after recent pushback from users online that are becoming frustrated with Copilot and AI on Windows. In a post on X, Suleyman says he’s mind blown by the fact that people are unimpressed with the ability to talk fluently with an AI computer.
His post comes after Windows president Pavan Davuluri was recently met with major backlash from users online for posting about Windows evolving into an agentic OS. His post was so negatively received that he was forced to turn off replies, though Davuluri did later respond to reassure customers that the company was aware of the feedback.
Well my guy have you actually used and I mean really sat down and used your burning pile of slop for an excuse of an OS? I bet you haven‘t because you don‘t have to. Your assistants have to deal with that and they get paid to not complain about it. Meanwhile you get paid to waste oxygen and have lost touch with reality to the point you‘re no longer able to contribute to society in your current position. How sad.
Holy fuck. I have to paste shit from reports into Outlook daily and that stupid fucking menu that pops up asking about if I want the formatting to match, that you can’t get rid of, drives me crazy.
And! And! You want a sync button? It’s not just hanging out anymore, you have to find it. Don’t like more clicks? That’s ok, use the F key. But not F5 like is standard on browsers! Enjoy pressing F9.
First world problems but they’re mine!
I’ll bet I can make your left eye twitch.
Are you ready?
A “large” amount of information.
Bitch, my computer has 128 gigabytes of RAM. It’s a tiny god. The fact that I have as many as 100 cells copied to the clipboard (which is the threshold that triggers this stupid message, if you’ve ever wondered) is not even a rounding error. I’m sure this was marginally important in 1982 or whenever this was first coded into Excel, but today my computer could lose an entire megabyte of memory or maybe even ten down between the couch cushions and neither of us would notice.
There is still no setting to disable this dumbshit message.
Never seen someone with a mind so easily blown.
At the idea of customer choice and feedback, no less; like those things are somehow BAD.
Microsoft is truly the king of putting out a product that no one wanted or asked for, then wondering why no one wants it. I’m sure they will soon begin the second phase of any Microsoft product: spending a small country’s GDP marketing it to try to get people to use it, despite it being prominently displayed on approximately 5 billion operating systems already.
A tried and true strategy to piss through more money than god to justify spending more money than god building the thing that no one wants. Looking at you, IE and edge.
Don’t forget cortana!
You know what I want MS to do? Remove all the extra crap and just be a simple OS. The desktop should use 500MB or so of memory, boot should be a few seconds, and launching programs should be a few seconds. Don’t do any weird caching nonsense, I don’t need tens of GBs of OS nonsense, just give me a simple OS.
I have that w/ Linux. The only value Windows provides is app compatibility. Stop trying to be anything more than that.
Man, can you imagine how good a bare bones version of win 10 would be? Drop all the useless software and telemetry services, only run the 3 or 4 background services that people use, and use flat window decorations like win 8. Essentially a modernized windows XP. Would be rad.
It is interesting to see his reaction to reality. He finds out that people think he’s peddling bullshit, and instead of asking why they think that, he dismisses them as irrational… That’s one way to run a company, but only if your company has a monopoly and customers can’t run away even if they want to.
His comparison to snake on his Nokia is actually good because in its current state AI is like a little gimmick for many users. Sure there are use cases but it can’t reliably perform any truly critical tasks because it makes terrible mistakes.
Imagine Nokia shoving snake in customers faces as it is being done with AI. Every phone marketed as OPTIMIZED FOR SNAKE. A big snake button on the phone as a shortcut to open it. Snake integrated everywhere. Trying to send a text? Would you like to play a round of snake first?
That’s what AI currently feels like.
Hence why Valve is releasing the Steam Machine to push SteamOS. It will illuminate a pathway to run away on. At least for gamers.
I’m still bit confused about steamOS, I thought it was supposed to be a full on operating system for gaming centric PCs but it seems to need Plasma in order to do any traditional computer things.
you seem to be confusing an operating system for the user interface. An os can (and regularly does) have more than one interface. In this case steamos ships with two of them. One they designed which is targeted for games. And they also ship plasma as a desktop environment for those who need it. The operating system lies under all that, and you can launch any piece of software from either of the interfaces. (or the terminal, that counts as a 3rd way to interact with the computer, I guess)
Which aspect of that confuses you? That it uses a Desktop Environment to do desktop things, or that they are using KDE Plasma instead of something else (say, gnome)?
So steamOS is in fact not an operating system it’s just a program that runs on plasma. Or is steamOS actually an operating system, but just quite a limited one, and you dual boot into plasma.
KDE Plasma is just the desktop environment. It’s not an OS. SteamOS is a full OS, built off of Arch Linux. It has both a Gaming mode, which looks a lot like Steam Big Picture does these days, and a desktop mode that uses Plasma as the graphical shell/interface. It doesn’t matter OS-wise which one you “boot” into, as both are SteamOS.
A desktop environment is not a prerequisite for an operating system.
I mean it kind of is. If I have a gaming focused operating system it still needs to occasionally be able to do all the other computer things otherwise I have to have two computers or dual boot or something. If I had a console I would still need a computer, well the saying this can be all things and we can just switch from windows to this, so it also has to be able to do all of the other stuff too.
Kiddy, computer gaming existed WAY before any desktop environments. Imagine, even multiplayer online games existed before Windows 95…
You know what would impress me? That I would be able to start using my computer when I boot it in the morning.
As it stands I have to wait some 5 to 10 minutes before the mouse pointer decides to cooperate with me. And god forbid I attempt to start a Teams meeting, either the camera, mic or screen share will not work at all.
What the hell is this dumbass operating system doing that is more important than responding to the damn user?
Same machine, booting Linux, lets me start working right away. No stuttering, no freezes. Go figure.
I literally don’t turn my computer off because even with an SSD windows takes so long to boot up properly. I still have to restart it every few days because memory management is shit.
I literally don’t turn my computer off because even with an SSD windows takes so long to boot up properly.
I admin several hundred Windows PCs so I’m pretty confident in saying that your computer is either a moldy potato, something is wrong with your hardware, or you have a very unusual software load. A modern Windows 10/11 desktop should go from power off to logon screen in < 30 seconds and from logon to desktop in < 30 seconds. Even an 8th Gen Core i5 with 8GB of RAM, a SATA SSD, and a full stack of security software will be ready to use in 60 seconds or less.
Whatever your problem is it ain’t “windows”…and I’m typing this comment from my home PC running Linux.
My win 11 pc (decently modern Ryzen 5600G) used to boot in 10~20 seconds, and then suddenly was taking 10+ minutes to boot. The problem? An external hdd. Removed that and instantly went back to 10~20 seconds boot. The people above 100% are having some sort of issue and just don’t know.
And Windows isn’t telling them. That’s part of the issue. If Cortana could tell them “this boot was slow because your video driver missed an update necessary for other system packages. Would you like me to show you how to fix that now?” that would be a win for your typical user.
Now THIS is a usecase that I can get behind. Microsoft shouldn’t be forcing AI, and instead just develop an optional tool for diagnosing PC issues. Problems logged in Event Viewer are not easy to understand, and an AI could be what is needed for making the unreadable into something actionable.
I do have several external harddrives, three monitors, and a MIDI keyboard. But “this computer will run fine as long as you don’t use the usb sockets” isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement itself.
I have a Win11 PC sitting here with a Core i5 8500t, 16G of RAM, 1T M.2 SATA NVME, attached to a three position KVM. Hooked to that KVM are three monitors (2 x DP, 1 x HDMI), wireless keyboard & mouse, Creative USB T60 speakers, and a USB WebCam (logi 970e). Since it’s a PC I use for work it’s Entra joined and InTune managed running Managed AV, MDR, and a DNS Filtering Agent. Oh, and the drive is encrypted with BitLocker.
So I basically have as much USB attached crap as you do, sans hard drives, and it’s going through the USB Hub that’s built into my KVM.
Time from power off to usable desktop for that machine is under 40 seconds.
Your external hard drives are a likely culprit. I’d guess that they are either on an older interface or your PC is set to do a full AV scan of attached drives at boot.
Don’t get it twisted, Microsoft and their products piss me off on a daily basis. I’m not defending them.
Do you guys not have phones - energy
people are unimpressed with the ability to talk fluently with an AI computer.
I already communicate fluently with my computer. I double click an icon to communicate to my computer “open this”. I type into a search field to communicate “find this string”.
At no point do I want to communicate to my computer “log everything I do, then use those logs to give me something that isn’t what I’m asking for.”
Reminder that Linux has never been better than it is right now for gaming!
I’m sooo looking forward to ditch Windows on my gaming station - tomorrow is the day! yay! (on linux for decades, but current gaming station is from 2017 when gaming on linux wasn’t that much enjoyable…)
Let us know how it goes!
It went awesome!
CachyOS is so amazing when it comes to installing software, the huge aur, the immense speed of the installations. I don’t think the latter should be weighted too much because who cares about a few seconds at install time, but it’s still super cool. And I’m sort of entitled to say “I use arch btw” now! yay for that!
The learning curve, coming from debian/ubuntu/QubesOS mainly in the recent years was mild. Learning that pacman offers just a subset of yay etc…
I installed a few “windows only” games from my steam library, all of them worked out of the box and very smooth. Back when I installed steam 4a ago on my laptop I still had to copy some DLL manually and preload some lib to make my favorite game work. No more so.
Even thinking of going CachyOS on my laptop - but as it hardly matters which linux is running there not sure if it’s worth the effort.
Using arch now, btw!
God damn, why aren’t these CEO American?
Got something against English people? Dude was born in the UK and is an Oxford dropout.
It’s an indian. How can us third world people think that’s an Englishman?
He might be the dumbest ceo out there, and that is an impressive feat.
Nope. Ballmer is and always will be the all time king R. He’s the dude that had MS pilot away from handheld devices because nobody will ever use cell phones. This was when MS was the only credible mobile OS. He oversaw Vista, he oversaw 8, both of which were complete disasters.
