ig, you could just buy used though or wait for their own device to be released via the upcoming OEM partnership. I wouldn’t be surprised if pixels are sold at a loss or break even point anyway, supplemented by surveillance capitalism and google play store revenue.
eos looks the most likely to me because of the partnership with murena; but i still hesitate because my sub-part experience using international brands within the united states and all of the lineage phones are either prohibitively ancient or international.
do you have any information on movement with any oems & graphene?
Don’t use eos if mobile security matters at all to you. It’s also not nearly as private as GrapheneOS and frequently phones home to Google.
my primary reasoning for an android alternative is to get out of google’s walled garden and security is 2nd.
the only aspect of mobile security that matters to me is that which protects me from national gov’ts & police and working as a software engineer & systems administrator for the last 20+ years has taught me that i’m hopelessly outclassed. so i chose to focus my efforts in the arenas where i can have any sort of impact and not financially supporting google is the only impact i can have. buying a pixel (either new or used) goes against this because i either give google the money for a new one or i help google with future sales by boosted pixel resale values with a used one.
i’ll be in line to buy a graphene device as soon as it’s available for something other than a pixel.
I assume you’re “voting with your wallet” which imo is not an effective or worthwhile endeavor. What manufacturer is so much better than Google that they’re actually worth going with over a Pixel with Graphene? The only one that I can think of is maybe Fairphone, but it only works in Europe and the extra cost would likely be better spent towards a donation to a project like GrapheneOS than a mediocre device that is neither private nor secure nor degoogled.
my primary reasoning for an android alternative is to get out of google’s walled garden
You don’t even need an alternative OS to get out of Google’s walled garden. You can and probably should start doing that before you move to an entirely new OS.
thanks graphene is a non-starter for me since i refuse to give google anything more than i (unwittingly) already have.
ig, you could just buy used though or wait for their own device to be released via the upcoming OEM partnership. I wouldn’t be surprised if pixels are sold at a loss or break even point anyway, supplemented by surveillance capitalism and google play store revenue.
eos looks the most likely to me because of the partnership with murena; but i still hesitate because my sub-part experience using international brands within the united states and all of the lineage phones are either prohibitively ancient or international.
do you have any information on movement with any oems & graphene?
They’ve confirmed it’s happening but likely not until later this year or 2027
Don’t use eos if mobile security matters at all to you. It’s also not nearly as private as GrapheneOS and frequently phones home to Google.
my primary reasoning for an android alternative is to get out of google’s walled garden and security is 2nd.
the only aspect of mobile security that matters to me is that which protects me from national gov’ts & police and working as a software engineer & systems administrator for the last 20+ years has taught me that i’m hopelessly outclassed. so i chose to focus my efforts in the arenas where i can have any sort of impact and not financially supporting google is the only impact i can have. buying a pixel (either new or used) goes against this because i either give google the money for a new one or i help google with future sales by boosted pixel resale values with a used one.
i’ll be in line to buy a graphene device as soon as it’s available for something other than a pixel.
I assume you’re “voting with your wallet” which imo is not an effective or worthwhile endeavor. What manufacturer is so much better than Google that they’re actually worth going with over a Pixel with Graphene? The only one that I can think of is maybe Fairphone, but it only works in Europe and the extra cost would likely be better spent towards a donation to a project like GrapheneOS than a mediocre device that is neither private nor secure nor degoogled.
You don’t even need an alternative OS to get out of Google’s walled garden. You can and probably should start doing that before you move to an entirely new OS.