Stop using Brave Browser
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Seriously.
  • Raltoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    32825·
    2 years ago

    The ceo is a bigoted asshole, Brave is chromium, it was initially funded by Peter Thiel and they’re literally just trying to make their own adsense network.

    The self-proclaimed privacy focused browser is tracking your browsing and want to serve you personalized ads, and I think they want to use that tracking data for AI training as well, meaning other people can potentially access it.

    And lets not forget about their crypto currency that you can earn by turning on special ads. Which they seemingly unironically called it “Basic Attent Tokens”…

    TL;DR: The company is basically a sham company trying to usher in a dystopia. Where you’ll get paid for staring at ads, while having all your data stolen and sold back to you.

    • sic_1@feddit.deEnglish
      984·
      2 years ago

      I see no reason to use any other browser than Firefox and maybe Librewolf.

      • mrsgreenpotato@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        3·
        2 years ago

        I am using Brave on iOS mainly because of its superb YouTube support - It has a built in ad block, can download videos offline and play minimized. Is there any way I can achieve this with any other browser? I would switch immediately.

      • xavier666@lemm.eeEnglish
        97·
        2 years ago

        I am forced to use Chromium on my work laptop because MS Teams doesn’t work (all the features) on Firefox.

        Edit: I should elaborate this a bit. There are 2 reasons why I use Chromium on my machine.

        1. If I face a problem, company tech team only knows Chrome and they start crying when I open Firefox.
        2. On Linux, the official way to use Teams is through a web-app and Firefox doesn’t support PWAs.

        All other MS services function fine on Firefox.

          • vettnerk@lemmy.mlEnglish
            8·
            2 years ago

            Same. I use furefox for everything* at work, despite everything being heavily integrated with teams, sharepoint, et.al.

            *: The only thing that doesn’t work with firefox is this inhouse web service that hasn’t been updated since 2017. It’s about to be replaced anyway, so nobody bothered to fix/update it.

          • xavier666@lemm.eeEnglish
            4·
            2 years ago

            Simple one-to-one calling is disabled saying it’s only available on Chrome. I’m pretty sure it’s recent since I had calls a few months back on Firefox. I’m also sure that it’s not some group policy since I’m on Ubuntu without any sort of ActiveDirectory so it’s a pure browser issue. Also, they force the old UI in Firefox due to some reason. Typical BS from Microsoft.

              • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
                7·
                2 years ago

                In a just world, the fact of changing the user agent fixing the issues would make for a slam-dunk anti-trust case.

              • Knusper@feddit.deEnglish
                3·
                2 years ago

                I’ve tried it today and yeah, 1-to-1 calls magically/unsurprisingly start working. In fact, the whole UI gets a facelift and lots of new features.

                If I had to guess, I’d say Microsoft keeps around a version of their UI, which hasn’t been maintained in over a year, and serves that to anyone initiating communication with a user-agent string they don’t like.

                If that’s true, that’s a massive security vulnerability. Admittedly, also unsurprising for Microsoft. @[email protected]

        • dan@lemm.eeEnglish
          8·
          2 years ago

          I use Firefox as my primary browser and run the teams app.

        • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
          51·
          2 years ago

          they start crying when I open Firefox.

          Good. Use it anyway, and bathe in their tears!

  • blue_zephyr@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23632·
    2 years ago

    The fact that their founder wants to ban gay marriage is enough reason for me to avoid it like the plague.

  • rog@lemmy.oneEnglish
    15015·
    2 years ago

    I dont know why anyone would leave chrome and land on something like brave.

    If youre ditching chrome, which you should, go to an actual different browser and use Firefox.

    • Anaralah_Belore223@lemmy.worldEnglish
      95·
      2 years ago

      Also, if you going to completely ditch chrome/chromium, also stop using Electron apps (which have chromium/Chromium Embedded Framework on them!)

    • Cypher@aussie.zoneEnglish
      73·
      2 years ago

      Streaming services seem to lower bitrate when I’m using Firefox vs Brave, so Brave is my go to for streaming.

      I use Firefox for everything else.

    • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caEnglish
      41·
      2 years ago

      Chromium has metric shit tons of work done that seems to perform great. What I would love to see is for Mozilla to fork Chromium, staff it with enough people to maintain it, add/remove the features they feel are appropriate/inappropriate, and thus reuse the tons of free work Google and others have already done. As a software engineer, I don’t buy the argument that it’s easier to correctly implement every new web feature anew than maintaining a fork. Every large org that ships anything based on Android for example maintains a fork of an even bigger codebase. It’s not as complicated as people make it out to be. It’s not a new problem and there are strategies to manage it. If Mozilla does this, they’ll be able to play an active role in steering by far the biggest rendering engine’s direction, instead of playing opposition with no stake in it. Now downvote away! 😄

      • tate@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        21·
        2 years ago

        The more market share chrome based browsers have, the easier it is for google to inflict their agenda for the internet on everyone. If firefox didnt exist, every web developer would be optimizing their sites only for chrome, and responding quickly to any change google wants to make.

        • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.caEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          It really doesn’t matter what Firefox’es codebase is though. To a web developer it’s a black box. It may as well be COBOL. So long as enough people use it and it behaves differently to a web developer than Google’s Chromium or Chrome, the goal you mentioned is achieved. This is why I don’t buy this argument.

    • whofearsthenight@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      I was using Chrome as a secondary because unfortunately “designed for Chrome” is a thing now, and got sick of Google’s bullshit and thought I was doing better by going to Brave. Unfortunately, it quickly became clear that Brave has its own large ethical holes.

    • hayes_@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      Personal anecdote:

      When I initially decided to drop Chrome, I moved to Brave because - as a chromium-based browser - it supported the same set of extensions I’d grown accustomed to.

      That being said, the crypto stuff weirded me out enough that, once I’d weaned myself off the extensions, I switched to Firefox.

      • Justice@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        0·
        2 years ago

        What extensions does chrome have which are useful that Firefox doesn’t?

        My only recurring issue with Firefox, which may have been fixed I dunno, is it for some reason it “isn’t officially supported” or whatever exact wording to use hardware security keys (like yubikey, which I use on every account that allows it). It’s only certain websites that don’t want to work though. Like google, Microsoft and many others were fine but I think paypal didn’t want to work properly but it does work on Edge, Chrome, probably Brave. Overall annoying as fuck at times but I deal with it to be out of Google’s-world

    • mrsgreenpotato@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      I am using Brave mainly because of its superb YouTube support - It has a built in ad block, can download videos offline and play minimized. Is there any way I can achieve this with any other browser? I would switch immediately.

    • chris2112@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 years ago

      I’ve tried Firefox several times but always end up back on chromium due to compatibility; a lot of sites don’t play well with anything but chrome anymore and this is very much something intentionally caused by Google, who have basically taken a page out of Microsoft’s playbook but with a much more mature product that is going to be substantially harder to replace then IE was

    • exonac@feddit.deEnglish
      36·
      2 years ago

      Brave is the only browser I know that can play youtube videos in the background on mobile. Please tell me another browser that can do that. The UX is just really good.

    • FatCat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      615·
      2 years ago

      Firefox and gecko are just not as smooth. I don’t know how you don’t notice this, especially on Android.

  • stooovie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1387·
    2 years ago

    I have absolutely no idea how Brave got the reputation it has. It’s business model is disgusting and extortionate, it’s like paying for warez. Been clear as day since day one.

  • arc@lemm.eeEnglish
    13914·
    2 years ago

    Brave is a marching band of red flags. It claims privacy while injecting ads, affiliate codes and crypto into the browser. It’s kind of sad to see someone like Brendan Eich who should know better turn to the dark side and pretend this is all fine. It isn’t.

    Best advice I could give for anyone who wants privacy is use Firefox or a branch of it. Firefox is out of the box the most privacy conscious mainstream browser and add-ons make it more so. If you want absolute privacy you could even use a derivative like Tor Browser.

  • CafecitoHippo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11819·
    2 years ago

    Yeah, fuck this guy.

    First, I have been online for almost 30 years. I’ve led an open source project for 14 years. I speak regularly at conferences around the world, and socialize with members of the Mozilla, JavaScript, and other web developer communities. I challenge anyone to cite an incident where I displayed hatred, or ever treated someone less than respectfully because of group affinity or individual identity.

    So I hid my hatred from everyone for 30 years successfully. Now that everyone finds out that I donated to a cause to strip them of rights everyone wants to say I’m hateful? Give me one example where I displayed hatred…how about the time you donated to strip people of their rights? That might be a big one for me.

  • Ibaudia@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9310·
    2 years ago

    The fact that its main 2 gimmicks are a shitty ad blocker and integrated cryptocurrency should be enough of a red flag, honestly. Just use Firefox, people!

  • febra@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8316·
    2 years ago

    So the CEO is a raging alt-righter. Glad I never used his product then.

  • Gnubyte@lemdit.comEnglish
    10036·
    2 years ago

    the hateful browser

    Holy shit man imagine if we judged every huge project by one asshole at the top. There wouldn’t be a single thing to enjoy in this world.

    Edit:

    I am going to add more perspective to this, because holy shit people are so into eating nothing burgers.

    Reddit/Twitter was a database and API that everyone was centralized onto, there was no choice. Brave you can literally fork because its open source. Aside from that this was literally the CEO’s personal donation of $1000…in like 2014. Almost 10 yrs ago.

    Elon, as CEO and on the X/Twitter brand:

    Meanwhile Brendan:

    Gnubyte

  • ddnomad@infosec.pub
    631·
    2 years ago

    Use Firefox or Safari, the more people use Chromium-based browsers the faster we get to the situation where Google completely owns the Internet (and they almost do now).

  • tengkuizdihar@discuss.onlineEnglish
    645·
    2 years ago

    Vivaldi? Trusting a closed sourced application for privacy? What?

    Not even defending brave here, just weird that the author say that.

  • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    637·
    2 years ago

    Today I learned that people take it VERY PERSONALLY when you criticize their chosen browser. 😂

  • barberousse@lemmy.caEnglish
    6513·
    2 years ago

    Long time Brave user here. This made me uninstall Brave and move to Firefox. Thank you !

  • owiseedoubleyou@lemmy.mlEnglish
    578·
    2 years ago

    I can’t think of a reason why anyone would use a browser other than Firefox and it’s forks.