I think we are/were/have sent that upstream to the main lemmy code doohickey.

I like that analysis, thank you.

You love to see it. It’s wild how outright piracy has become a normal tool of international diplomacy.

Big oof. Eco-fascism ahoy!

You’d think “people can’t afford to fuck” would be some kind of wake up call for capital.

This isn’t accurate at all. The fighting happened when would-be insurgents ambushed pla troops. The pla had unarmed soldiers in the square for a long time. And i mean really unarmed. No helmets, no shields, no batons, no tear gas. When things finally touched off with the cia-backed "pro democracy) faction that was a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the people involved the pla ordered everyone out of the square and everyone left. That was it. When the cia backed wannabe insurgents started attacking the pla everyone was ordered to leave and they left. They didn’t do any brutal state repression. The cpc was in an extremely awkward position bc the vast majority of people involved in the June 4th incident were protesting against Dengist market liberalization, asking for a return to a more socialist economy. Others were protesting the restrictive social norms of contemporary China, arguing that the restrictive social norms were anti-communsit and that people should have more freedom to do simple stuff like publicly date and be publicly affectionate.

Ultimately a big part of the reason there was little reprisal is bc the cpc couldn’t crack down on pro-socialist protestors, and because in the end the whole thing ended mostly peacefully. The narrative around it is so utterly twisted and distorted. And if you ask people in China about it they don’t understand why westerners think it’s important. It’s just a minor incident in history from a long time ago.

From what i understand the vast, overwhelming majority of students were protesting against the Dengist reforms.

About 300 people died, including PLA soldiers, in street fighting blocks away from the square, which started when unarmed pla soldiers were attacked with firebombs in their trucks and apcs and burned alive.

The students in the square left when ordered with little if any violence. The whole narrative around the June 4th incident is unalloyed propaganda and revisionist history.

And the color revolt was only a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of the people there. The revisionism is disgusting.

That’s nice.

Statists using tribunals to try other statists is the use of state authority and the use of the state’s monopoly on the legitimate use of force. If “Authoritarian” means anything at all then using the power of the state to prosecute people who are doing state stuff in ways you don’t like is authoritarian.

Sankara was murdered 31 years after the revolt in Hungary was put down. He supported the USSR. He was, by definition, a tankie.

I didin’t justify anything. I just told you what happened.

Presumably the young men of Ukraine will realize that throwing themselves on to the enemy guns is a losing proposition at some point before that but who knows?

How does that saying go?

Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance.

I keep telling everyone to read Sun Tzu because he’s very specific, numerous times, about not doing this specific thing. : p

There are a finite number of 18-35 year old men.

Open circulatory system gang stay wining.

Good to know. Thank you for the information.

It’s like one page. You asked for an explanation of what’s going on. Take it or leave it. Sorry it’s not formatted very well I had to type it on the fly at like 3am.

Okay, sure. That fits.

Good point.