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  • I agree this is all about semantics, you seem to consider nature only for its bad sides (but don’t forget we also get all our food from nature).

    Nature is really terrible, actually. It’s an endless cycle of violence, death

    Dying sucks but I don’t think we should ever stop doing that (at a reasonable age, let’s be clear).

    I agree that being above the violent killing part of nature should be an ideal, but I’m sorry to say I don’t believe we’re there yet, people are still killing; for food, for fun, for greed, just look at the news… :'(

    I resent this “man is part of nature” argument because at face value it romanticizes suffering.

    Here you raise an important question: does being part of nature exclude us from using technology?

    I don’t believe so. To me being part of nature does not mean to live like our ancestors did when there was no manmade things, or when you would get burned at the stake for doing science…
    (I’m not sure in what periods of history you would consider we were part of nature).

    The way I see it, we could be part of nature while using a lot of the technologies we use today. We would just need to tweak (a lot) of them and drop the use of many more, but I’m convinced that, if everybody started taking their responsibilities, we could find effective ways to produce enough medicine and food without the damage that those currently cause.

    So yeah, I get you, you get me, we just don’t mean the same thing when we say nature :)


  • Thanks for a well thought, well written answer!

    I guess I missed the point of the comic a bit…

    I think you’re right, they either expressed themselves wrong or misinterpreted the panel.

    So, for this I guess there was whoosh! My bad.

    I should’ve thought some more before replying to you.
    I saw someone defending ecology under a post that could be seen as ridiculing it so my brain went all white knight towards what seemed to me like a pedant dick… But turns out I was the dick.










  • Look it’s my opinion from personal experience, just disregard it if it bothers you.

    I read the whole series of posts but didn’t see them, I guess I needed to search some more - my bad.

    I’m not saying social media doesn’t let you do all those things, I’m saying you don’t need it to do them.

    I don’t have kids and never used Snapchat, but what does Snapchat provide that helps them communicate better than let’s say WhatsApp?

    Edit: I went to dig on Burnett’s page for the links you tell me about. All I found was a radio interview of a doctor on radio Boston, an article from the Sunday times about Burnett’s book and an article on Wales online, also about the book.

    Could you link me to the relevant articles I must have missed?

    Edit 2: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7364393/ Found this article that combines different studies made on the subject. Around halfway through the page you will find the results of some of these studies and you will see the answer isn’t clear.


  • Let’s remember the ban in Australia concerns platforms such as Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Reddit and X. Exemptions will apply to services such as YouTube, messenger kids, whatsapp, kids helpline and google classroom.

    The account you provided starts by stating that “the most rigorous analysis” found little/no significant evidence , but fails to link to them. He immediately lumps together smartphone and social media, then goes on justifying the importance of both with arguments that clearly concern almost exclusively smartphones.

    This ban is about social media, not smartphones altogether.

    Garwboy’s arguments:

    • they let kids stay connected with friends, foster a community, allow coordination of activities: he’s talking about smartphones.

    • they allow access to school work, references, important resources: again, smartphones/the internet

    • they allow access to support, help and guidance from experienced and informed individuals and groups: this point I’ll give to him; as for years, Reddit has served that very purpose for me. Who knows what that site has become though.

    • he compares them to roads (roads kill children every year, but they save many lives, make the world go round,…): again this whole comparison is only valid for smartphones.

    • they are a refuge for children who experience abuse at home: this is probably true, but it is not an argument about how social media helps in these situations. I could say the same about drugs .

    Which brings us to my point of view: social media are, for many, a drug. A bit of it can be good, fun and even sometimes make your like better, but we have to acknowledge the negative side, which in my opinion can have devastating effects in a person’s mental, especially when the mental is still in its forming stage.