• 1 Post
  • 30 Comments
Joined 2 years ago
cake
Cake day: August 13th, 2023

help-circle












  • What if our simulated universe is actually way, way less terrible than the real world? What if the simulation was created specifically to have lower suffering/higher utils than in reality?

    certain sentences you’ve extracted suggest the author considers severe suffering incomparably worse than any pleasure (for example why would ‘removing suffering’ necessarily improve the universe? in a framework where suffering and pleasure are comparably significant factors, it is possible that removing suffering would remove enough pleasure to tip the balance negative).

    that’s a point of view I’m very sympathetic to, but it means external reality would almost certainly be worse than the simulation, because the external reality contains the simulation, and therefore contains at least as much severe suffering as the simulation. put another way, is it worse for a torture chamber to exist, or for torture chamber makers to exist?

    I think what this is highlighting is a disconnect in their thinking between what I presume to be a greatest good based utilitarian framework, and what they actually think is cool and are talking about, which is heroic individual action. they want to present as hari seldon but they’re really wanking about pulp adventure shit








  • the site you are imagining, the supposed free speech site? it converges to gab. this dynamic is basic and I can’t take you seriously if you don’t get this.

    • nazis are encouraged to be equal voices on a platform
    • they use the platform’s reach to radicalize fence sitters
    • other users, realizing their digital roommates are Nazis, are alarmed and leave
    • now it’s a nazi site

    what exactly do you think substack will consist of in two years if they don’t do a 180? the entire reason we’re having this conversation right now is that a bunch of substack writers said they would rather leave than hang out with nazis