I get there are still users but it feel empty at times compared “other” platforms.

Why isint lemmy more popular?

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    Whaaaaaat? It has a far better signal to noise ratio than those ‘other’ platforms. As long as you’re into Star Trek memes and Linux.

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        Do it! I made the plunge and have zero regrets. Everything works, it’s fun, and I get to annoyingly pester friends, family, and strangers about the benefits of open source software!

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          Thank you. My only real concern point now, is running Adobe stuff in a VM. Other than that I think I’m good to go.

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            How’d it go? Also, what sort of Adobe stuff are you running? I do hobby photography, and unfortunately lightroom is still by far the best option imo. But there are still some decent alternatives that run on Linux. I edited some engagement pics in Darktable in a pinch once because all I had with me was my laptop running Arch. It worked out pretty well.

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              Install has gone fine.
              Having trouble getting OpenRGB working. Might just have to turn off lights in BIOS for now.

              And I’m also a hobby photog. Lightroom and Photoshop. I’ve tried Darktable and GIMP on Windows before. As much as I complain about Adobe, they’re still miles ahead of the OSS alternatives.

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      I like star trek, but I’m very much not a trekkie and don’t care much for syar trek memes. This is hard here, I don’t really wanna filter them since I do understand some and get a laugh out of one every now and then, but its 99% meh or having no idea what they mean. Do like Linux memes though, and even programing memes even though I only have incredibly shallow programing knowledge and experience. They are definitely more approachable and mostly easy to figure out without deep knowledge, like it feels many star trek memes require.

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      the linux content isn’t even that great on Lemmy

      more just cheer leading; in a good way

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    network effect. There’s fewer people here so there’s fewer people here.

    That said, I like it just how it is and would caution anyone against wishing for more users.

    Don’t focus on getting more users. Focus on making the content here the best it can be.

    It’s inevitable that the quality of the experience here will change with more users. Whether it’s a net positive or negative remains to be seen.

    To be sure, these are the “good old days” of lemmy.

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    I don’t know a single person that knows it exists other than a few that ive tried to get interested. I have told a few friends that use reddit but they just don’t get it.

    I started lemmy a few months ago, stopped using reddit completely a few weeks ago and I don’t miss it other than all the dog posts…more people need to post pics of their doggos on here !!!

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    Because there’s still a handful of basic stuff that still hasn’t gotten sorted out yet for some reason.

    Like if I wanted to share your post with my friends, I’ll send them this link: https://piefed.ca/c/nostupidquestions/p/377144/why-isint-lemmy-more-popular. If they’re using a mobile app, then it might be fine. But if they’re on desktop and want to comment or vote here but aren’t already on my instance, they need to go back to their home instance, search up this community, and then search for this post. Why isn’t there some sort of native way where I can just click on a button and have it open up in my home instance? Or even better: integrate something like threadiverse.link into Lemmy/PieFed so it immediately redirects me to my home instance’s version on this post.

    And before someone suggests using a different front-end or using a browser script, I appreciate you trying to help but my issue is why this isn’t even natively part of Lemmy. And I’m not even sure if it’s in the pipelines for V1.0.

    Another issue is that there are still posts that don’t federate properly. And it’s not because an instance was defederated. What posts I see on this account might never be visible from a separate account. What is even more frustrating is that sometimes, I can’t even force my instance to fetch the post. I’ll give it the direct link and it still can’t find the post on my instance.

    As long as these basic issues remain unresolved, Lemmy will not become popular. A site can’t be popular if I can’t even share a post to my friends properly. Or if I can’t even see the post, then I wouldn’t be able to share it with anyone!

    Edit: added clarification

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    People stay on mainstream corporate platforms no matter how badly they enshittify because that’s where everyone else is. They don’t want to jump ship unless everyone else will jump ship with them, and so nobody makes the first move.

    Lemmy isn’t more popular because Lemmy isn’t more popular. Lemmy wants to be an alternative to Reddit, but the best thing Reddit had going for it was all the niche communities for fandoms, hobbies, and other interests. That’s something that just can’t exist here, because if you take a niche thing and multiply it by a niche platform, I’ll bet that I might very well be the only person on this platform who is into some of my hyperfixations. So people who want to talk about topics that have no community here, leave and go back to bigger platforms.

    I’m still here to try and push for a better future, but I honestly don’t know how we can grow this place to the kind of critical mass it would take to really get the ball rolling.

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      You need to game the system.

      Create OC here then post that to other social media sites.

      That directs people here. Without that Fediverse will take a lot longer to grow.

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      reddit has all the drama too, like r/art, or another sub people will visit those subs, and "drama about youtubers and livestreamers. also the politics/news is probably the largest communities.

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      Yeah I miss a lot of subs. /r/worldbuilding was really fun, getting lost in other people’s imaginations. The counterpart [email protected] is super quiet, and I feel like I’m the only regular poster.

      Reddit was so huge that you could find a sub for literally anything. Wanna look at funny ginger monke, than go to /r/orangutan. Wanna pretend to be a caveman? Then go to /r/talesfromcavesupport. Lemmy is way to small to support stuff like that.

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    It is more popular.

    That probably doesn’t make sense, but when I joined a few years ago, I could read every post across the entire lemmy-verse and be annoyed waiting for new content about anything. At the time, the survival of lemmy at all was in serious doubt.

    Now I have my handful of groups that are generally active enough that I get a consistent amount of new stuff coming in. It’s fairly low volume compared to other platforms, but it’s growing fairly steadily and becoming more useful all the time.

    The creation of communities happens with time. We’re getting there.

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      It spiked in users to like 58k monthly active users after the Reddit API scandal, but that has dwindled down to 30-35k. Would be nice to see at least 100k.

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    Reddit has been around for 20 years and Lemmy not near as long. Reddit didn’t really hit it big until Digg screwed the pooch driving away users around 2010. I don’t see Lemmy hitting Reddit number probably ever, but reddit is one of the highest trafficked sites on the web. Lemmy is steadily growing, but I think to many non users, federation and instances is a confusing prospect, so they never try. As it grows, I would imagine it will get easier or at least clearer for the layman and the velocity of growth will increase due to that and a larger user base as a whole.

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      Also the client situation is confusing to normies. Search for Lemmy on the spyware cancer store and you’ll see what I mean.

      Pixelfed and Mastodon have already figured that out.

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      federation and instances is a confusing prospect

      Which is why we shouldn’t frontload people with that stuff. They don’t need to understand decentralization from the start, let them familiarize themselves with the fediverse first before throwing that at them. Just recommend a default instance, maybe change which every few posts if centralization is a concern. They’ll pick up the idea of instances as they interact with the fediverse.

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      only way lemmy will grow, if reddit is continously banning people, or enshittfying some major thing, that prevents a certain community to not be viable. reddit noticed of thier large purges were getting rid of too many people at once, they now do alot of background banning instead.

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      reddit was niche until the 2016 elections. that’s when it really started exploding and you started hearing abotu it in the mainstream media and boomers had heard of it.

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      That’s interesting. I never saw it that way, before. Now I kind of see it.

      I always sat at the “loser” table at lunch, in school.

      I changed schools many times and they - multiple different “loser” tables - welcomed me.

      It’s also just where all the most interesting people were sitting, so I wouldn’t have had it any other way.

      Maybe they were just more free to be their real selves together, because no one was trying to prove they fit some official cliche.

      Anyway, I would be proud to once again be a member of a loser table.

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    because the interface is archiac, and the majority of topics are extremist.

    normal people see the front page of lemmy and they see a bunch of weirdos going on about linux, communism, and trans stuff.

    any of the big threads with 100s of comments are full of crazies going off about violence and hate towards mainstream political positions and lifestyles.

    i am ‘mainstream’ and i have to block multiple users per day because i get constantly harassed by nutcases telling me how evil i am for using windows/mac, being a socialist democrat, and driving a car to work. if you disagree with the militant doomer wannabe revolutionaries you’re not going to have a good time here.

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      Honestly this. Everyone is always “on”. Everything HAS to be about politics, and if one syllable you utter isn’t cursing Donald Trump and his descendants unto the thousandth generation you’re labelled a fascist. I mean for heaven’s sake I don’t like him, I didn’t vote for him, and I’m counting the days until his term is over, but no that’s apparently not enough.

      Like, please, guys, I’m begging, just let me look at funny pictures of cats and talk about old video games.

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        if there is anything i’ve learned, online or not. miserable people hate anyone who isn’t as miserable as they are and will harass and insult you for not being miserable just like them.

        for example, i like my job. this makes a lot of people immediately hostile to me when they find out because they hate their job.

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          But I AM a miserable person, and I want to be LESS miserable by coming on here and having fun, but every blessed thread on here has the word “capitalist” somewhere in it. Guys I don’t even necessarily disagree with y’all I just don’t want to talk about the evils of corporate America in this thread that’s nominally about Super Mario.

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            life is reductive. it’s not my job to have ‘empathy’ for militant losers who sit around flipping between whining about their lives and then engaging in violent political fantasizing about how they will kill the non believers to the communist cause to usher in the utopia.

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      My god did you fucking nail it. Been thinking about bailing out over all the things you brought up.

      I’d add two things though, news users are also swamped with furry shit and little girl porn, or “anime” as some call it. I spent my first two weeks here smashing block on all that shit, yet it still pops up constantly. If 8-yo girls in sexy maid outfits and fucking dogs is your thing, lemmy might be a good fit!

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        Oh, yeah, I had to learn how to block communities pretty quickly when I arrived. It’s been so long that I had almost forgotten about that process.

        My experience with Tumblr was largely the same. My list of filtered tags there is rather long.

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      this is the correct answer

      roughly 2 million people gave lemmy a try and 1.95 million walked away

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      Why do Reddit and Twitter users not have a similar problem with all the fascist shit going on over there? If extremism would be the problem on Lemmy, why isn’t it a problem on Reddit or Twitter?

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        Twitter does have that problem. It’s had that problem for years. That’s why I’m not on Twitter. That doesn’t cancel out the craziness on here though.

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        because most lemmy users are extreme leftists who think everyone is a fascist. i am a facist and a nazi according to lemmy. and think think nothing of harassing and banning anyone who doesn’t agree with them. at least here i can on be banned on the .ml or extremist instances, not lemmy wide.

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    1. Because people still use Reddit (for some reason).

    2. Because it is fragmented and hard to understand how it works for average person.

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      1. reddit has more larger and niche communties that arnt found anywhere else in such large numbers.

      the only useful communties outside of reddit tend towards things like medical questions and drug usage forums. also spam/bot for income too on many SC.

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    It’s a nightmare to even sign up.

    Nothing else to it.

    People will move en-masse to new platforms if the switch is easy. Nothing easy about using this platform.

    Obv the people here are techy enough to surmount the initial hurdles, but don’t kid yourself, the average person doesn’t know a damned thing. Using tech and understanding tech are two vastly different skills. And you actually need to understand tech to even get started here.

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    It’s somewhat difficult to navigate at first and most users find the most popular platforms and don’t have a reason to move on, simple as that. Ease of access and, unfortunately, advertising would lead to Lemmy being more popular. But who would fund the advertising?

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      most users find the most popular platforms and don’t have a reason to move on

      This is definitely a good point. Is even visible here, with not just Mbin but also Piefed still barely having users compared to Lemmy.

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      Guerilla marketing?

      Wheatpaste posters or something.

      Everything new starts in the underground.

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    Because Reddit exists.

    Reddit itself didn’t truly take off to massive scale until some other players were out of the way. It was the underdog for a long time.

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    I think it may be more popular soon because other platforms are bringing in age verification.

    That’s one reason I am here and also Reddit mods are dicks.

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        Yes but it’s small enough that most people haven’t heard of it.

        The trick would be to get more users but not so many that it becomes a household name and is then added to the list of sites requiring verification

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          Ofcom just handed a small porn site no-one’s ever heard of a £1 million fine. Pretty sure they know about Lemmy.

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            Ofcom

            Didn’t they also fine 4chan who simply refused to pay? Can they enforce these fines?

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              The fine increases by £300 every day it goes unpaid. They can enforce the fines once they find the operator of the site. In this case, it’s registered at Companies House so that guy is going to have a very expensive new year.

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      other platforms are bringing in age verification.

      Will be interesting to see how this pans out for lemmy.

      You’re right there will be a movement away from the larger platforms. I don’t think it will be a movement to lemmy though.

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    The fediverse can be a confusing concept. It certainly was to me, and I’m in IT. The idea that Lemmy and other federated platforms aren’t a single monolithic site but a group of sites that share content took a bit for me to grasp. I thought it had something to do with single sign on, like you made an account on one instance and any other instance federated to yours could verify your identity with your home instance so you could post on the other instance without making a native account.

    People who join the fediverse are also by and large self selecting. That is they’re making a conscious decision to reject the corporate-run social media platforms that the fediverse seeks to replace, so merely having an account on here is making an ideological statement, and I’m including myself here. Anyway, that gives the discourse on the fediverse a more politically charged feel that may turn some people off. When you go to a community like mildlyinteresting expecting to see pics of three-chambered peanuts and yellow stop signs but get things like “French President explains the political consequences of AI” it can be kind of exhausting.