• Basic Glitch@sh.itjust.works
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    Oh you can’t find a partner even willing to get married and reproduce right now?

    They just keep repeating the same nonsense on loop like:

    “Are you literally insane?”

    “Have you even noticed the present reality we’re living in?”

    “I could be charged with a crime just for having complications during pregnancy.”

    “They hooked a braindead woman in Georgia up to life support last year like a human incubator. She had tried to go to the ER the day before because of a painful headache. Instead of helping her they gave her 2 aspirin and sent her home where she suffered a brain aneurysm.”

    “They literally just sent her away when she sought their help, but after declaring her braindead they decided to actually admit her to the hospital.”

    “They made her family wait to remove her from life support until she had given birth to a premature baby. The baby was born with multiple birth defects he will struggle with for the rest of his life.”

    “Of course they aren’t even giving him healthcare or helping to pay his medical bills. They kept his mother alive like some kind of science experiment from the Handmaid’s Tale, and demanded he be born simply to refuse to help him survive.”

    “Because it turns out the world is literally run by completely sadistic pedophiles. They don’t even need an Epstein anymore because now they’re legally allowed to kidnap and traffick children!”

    “They’re splitting families apart and holding them indefinitely in concentration camps. There’s been multiple documented cases of sexual assault by guards, and we’re just letting it happen. Now they’re buying up warehouses across the country to convert into more camps!”

    “How can you even think about something like that?! They’re dragging us into an endless WWIII just to distract from the pedophiles and help corporations increase their profits! What the fuck do you think they’re planning to do with all these kids they’re trying to force us to give birth to?”

    Psssh, sounds like typical unhinged feminism. Destroying the American dream.

    • ZeDoTelhado@lemmy.world
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      You may be half joking, but I’ve discussed this many times with my partner. Society, by today’s definition, do not reward at all having kids. However, for a society to keep going you **need ** children, so wtf is supposed to happen? No children, society just grows old at at some point you have a massive decline in the younger brackets? And then is just old folks yelling at clouds? Also, another detail, the mono parental lifestyle we have nowadays is actually quite recent. And I do think is very much impossible to have the expected amount of children on such system

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        Every society values status and wealth. This time we’ve taken that to the extreme, to the exclusion of everything else. It’s going to be one of the failed experiments in history.

        Ancient Greece even had those episodes where the rich managed to get farmers deep in debt. A bunch of them just left. Another bunch became serfs. The end result was productivity tanking and food security becoming problematic. Cue debt relief, changing laws, … The rich will always fuck it up for everybody and themselves given enough time, sometimes they learn, and they do it all again a century later.

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        I would be so fucking rich without a family! I can live on ramen and gaming (I am 41, and this never changed), sobI would have like 80% of disposable income up for saving

      • Basic Glitch@sh.itjust.works
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        But without children, who will fight your forever wars and be trafficked by the Oligarchs who want to create 24/7 mass surveillance with live facial recognition tracking?

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        The rich have bought out trailer parks. And the factories where they make trailers. So even going that route is being exploited.

  • null@lemmy.org
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    Down payment on a house or pay the hospital for one child birth. Choose.

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    Is there a time besides maybe the 2010s where people had more disposable income ? What 3rd spaces did we have decades ago that we do not now ?

    We have surrendered the future to religious extremists which is pretty depressing

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    Yeah, but like… Then I would have kids, and even apart from the whole “giving birth” thing, or how expensive they are, having kids sounds absolutely awful.

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    Marry? Sure! Reproduce? Nah, we’ll stick to hiking, video games, and anarchist gardening, thanks.

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    The ruling class want church to be our third space but every church my family dragged me to as a teen everyone was either 30+ years older than me or single digit ages.