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    Millenials in the coments talking about how the millenials are actualy cool and already stopped generational trauma: 1000009147

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      I don’t have a problem with zoomers, but I will make fun of them for using TikTok. It’s an unhealthy social environment. I know a zoomer who struggles with tiktok addiction and always does more poorly after using that app. They’ve been braver and kinder since they quit it.

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        So instead of building a better platform for them, you denigrate them for conforming to the world you left behind for them.

        You are exactly the boomer you claim to hate

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          So if they’re not going to save the world, nothing they ever do amounts to anything. Worse, the whole thing worked (the Zoomer quit Tiktok and they feel better now) so that was obviously bad.

          And now, and please do mind that has nothing to do with age: Your argument is dumb and you should feel bad. In fact the first thing is Boomer talk, the shit they tried to get us with. Fuck that.

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            Feel free to waste your time beating up that strawman all you like; the rest of us have actual important shit to do.

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              At some point further down in your life you’re going to look back, in regret, thinking “Why did I become the me version of Ben Shapiro”.

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      I’m not a fan of the tiktok Insta influencer culture and communicating in 90% emojis but other than that it’s all good.

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      Me, here.

      Picking on younger generations is healthy and natural: They’re still figuring stuff out and it’s a good way to give some teachings while everyone has a chuckle. What’s not healthy and natural is leaving them with neuroses where silent expectations, judgements, unwillingness to see their side etc. are the usual weapons: Don’t carry a dagger behind your back, doubly so don’t be unconscious of it, instead, open-carry a super soaker.

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        Said the dumbass craven bully who needs to pick on people weaker than themselves to feel better

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          So you wouldn’t pick a snowball fight with a whole primary school because you’re oh so moral, not because you’re scared. Makes sense.

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            Unlike you I do not, in fact, fear five-year-olds. And it’s not because of fear or principle. It is because I am not a craven, sadistic lunatic who feels the need to harm children to prove a point.

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              I shall look forward towards your experience report picking that snowball fight with a whole primary school, then. Also primary school is like 6-10, at least over here. They can throw.

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      I’m a millennial and I’m constantly reminding them that their generation is fucked. We can joke about overreliance on screens but they actually require it to SLEEP…

      I think the strength needed to fix our world is completely lacking from first world children, that they instead escape into fantasy and whimsy and shut out the larger world. They get led around by the nose by propoganda and trends, by celebrity worship and corporate marketing.

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          It’s on the other generations, too. It’s not going to end before we’re all dead. Passing the torch is barely functional, if a single generation fails to pick up the work set by the previous then our race will die out. Generations are generally better than their predecessors, but only because their predecessors mould them to fit the world they’ve created, and that work must continue for generations to come. They do not become the way they are on their own.

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              Are you saying you’re nihilistic and therefor that you don’t care or are you implying that I am nihilistic for worrying about the future? Because both of those sentiments are bad for very different reasons: one is wrong and the other is selfish. Thanks for accidentally arguing on my behalf.

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                I’m making fun of you if that wasn’t clear. No, the next generation are not weak, incapable or any other sort of negative generalization that you might think they are. They are people as diverse any other generation and the whole point of this post is to espouse that generational stereotypes only serve to hurt us and divide us from accomplishing better things for humanity.

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          If out of all of the people from an entire generation, you have never met anybody who fits such a vague description, I would accuse you of having not left your home for a long time.

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    The circle has already been broken, as ~zoomer, the vast majority of millennials I interacted with were really nice people.

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        Yeah that’s been my experience as well and I work for a bar. Most of my coworkers in that generation have been easier to get along with, easier to communicate with and don’t visibly panic at a “dead inside” joke. Direct contrast to my last workplace with more millennials/boomers. Ive yet to cop inter-generational shit talking from zoomers so they sure won’t get it from me. Plus look what they did with memes.

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      I think boomers to millennials would make more sense. Boomers are so hateful and desperate to keep what was promised to them that they will hold on to it even if it costs 3 generations of people almost everything.

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      I’m a really young zoomer and most millenials I interacted with were also really nice.

      But there were also a few jerks

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      I’m a millennial and I love you guys, my aim is to be kinder and more helpful to y’all than our predecessors were to us

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        Gen Xers have always been pretty cool, as long as you don’t expect them to care about much. I get the feeling that the close proximity to the Boomers really took it out of them.

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      Is the inheritance of generational hatred depicted here even real? Some of the nicest people I’ve interacted with in my entire life were Baby Boomers. I’ve met shittier Gen Xers and Millennials than Baby Boomers.

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        It’s all bullshit, just generated for people to hate someone other then the ones they should be.

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    Never been called a snowflake or saw someone call another a cringe zoomer outside of toxic online communities.

    Get out more, the real world is different

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    In these comments it’s just more generation vs generation BS. We’re attacking the wrong group. Like 10 people have 90% of the money in the world. Someone dancing on Tiktok or being on their phone more isn’t the problem.

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    i disown and disavow all millennials who give zoomers a hard time

    zoomers are fucking priceless

    gen-α needs the strongest possible start and the best support we can offer

    let’s NOT act like those FUCKING BOOMERS.

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      Any millennial that gives their succeeding generations any shit is a wannabe boomer.

      This also applies to Gen-X.

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        I give absurd humor, even if it seems low effort, a pass.

        Imagine how gross/dumb Monty Python sketches were to the Lost Generation. How much did The Kids In The Hall rile up Boomers?

        How terrible does early South Park and Beavis and Butthead look to me now that I have a couple decades to reflect on them.

        Zoomers are potentially the most existentially detached generation we have seen in a while, and I’m excited to see what they create, if my old Xennial ass lives that long.

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      Zoomers are great and all, but their brains don’t seem to stay on for more than 20 consecutive seconds at times.

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    Baby Boomers as a generational cohort are well on their way to completely dying off and generational antagonism is a tool of the capitalist class to turn the workers of different ages against one another. Be better than that. Make better memes.

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      Generational antagonism predates capitalism by about 2 thousand years (of our recorded history)

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        And it’s always been a cudgel used by the powers that be to distract from the real sources of everyone else’s problems. Funny how that works.

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      generational antagonism is a tool of the capitalist class to turn workers against each other

      Isn’t that what this meme is about?

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            Online I see this sort of rage bait all the time. In the real world everyone I talk to thinks there’s arseholes and good people in every age group. Stop feeding the media’s narratives. It’s what made reddit shit and it will ruin Lemmy too if we let it. Downvote it, move on. Too many bots and social media entities use it drive traffic and influence the online conversation that eventually ends up influencing the real world.

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              Literally how is this image rage bait? It’s saying that even if previously generations were shitty to you, don’t be shitty to the next one.

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                It assumes multiple entire generations of people were shitty and verbally abusive to their children on the basis of nothing more than being from a different generation.

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    I’m a millennial and I don’t understand why anyone from my generation would have a problem with zoomers. Y’all are good people.

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    I use TikTok (I know…). There, when there’s rivalry, it is frequently ‘gen Z’ the one bullying ‘millennials’. They criticize the way they use technology, their fashion sense, their attitudes, their musical tastes, etc. Studies are noticing that ‘gen Z’ tend more to the right-wing, so I guess there’s a part of them also criticizing previous generations for being too leftists or whatever.

    I use the quotation marks because this whole generational thing seems to me arbitrary and U.S.-centric. I’m in the years that are considered the transition between these two generations and I share characteristics with both. It’s silly how serious we’ve taken this thing.

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      I’ve noticed the same thing between many generations regardless of chronology. I’ve also noticed it outside of the us. I think the root issue is that groups of people want other groups of people to be angry at.

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      R.E. politics, the tail-end millennials (me) grew up during the death of education which I think is a huge factor. For every good part of our education was two dying branches of it. Funding going down, extracurriculars being cut, food quality going down, strikes in colleges for pay and I mean so, so many others. And I grew up in California where education was a heavy focus, especially for anyone who wanted to get out. But despite all the shortcomings of our education system, we had teachers who cared and some students who wanted to learn, these teachers were mostly all within a decade of my age now and so they were fairly young and politically minded. Some were Teach for America staff so they were literally just out of college, I’m sure many remember what it’s like to have that mindset. We also grew up in the Obama years so we had the full range of “holy shit first black President representing us!” to “oh God he bombed Syria” which pretty heavily politicized us (and then we got Trump who appointed Betsy DeVoss as Sec. of Education which set that politicization further). I can’t speak for all millennials of course but I feel like all this led to us being hyper-aware of our politics making it especially easy to see the insanity that Fox News peddles, and more recently the transition of CNN from biased but informational to Fox News lite. All in all it’s a pretty strong foundation for young leftists to form some convictions.

      It seems to me that Gen Z did not have these foundations by design. In 2016 with the appointment of Betsy DeVoss as Secretary of Education our school system was absolutely butchered. Fox News wasn’t even under the guise of news anymore, it’s just “pundit” talk shows providing “statistics” that they use to push hate. They grew up with the tail end of Obama culling any possibly early sense of hope that the millennials had. That apathy only further onset when Trump was elected, but not just apathy. Since in red states where the changes to education hit the hardest it became identity politics, now the identity of an individual has become politicized, something that has only been exacerbated by our media. IMO that’s why the events of Kyle Rittenhouse went down how they did, a child was politicized by their area and family and instead of being politically minded about it they made it about some identity that doesn’t exist. And nevermind the societal changes they grew up with, as they’re the first generation to grow up fully inundated with technology and the Internet, getting barrages of >1 min clips that can never tell the full story.

      I agree with you overall in that millennial and gen Z are closer generations than most, but I do think there are some important distinctions that likely influenced how each of these generations grow up to interact with the world. I also think that it seems likely that these polls probably won’t get as many responses from certain demographics due to potential lifestyles. Someone in a liberal city may not answer the poll because they’ve got the city life to live, whereas someone who gets the poll and they’re done with their school day and the neighbors are 40 minutes away… sure, nothing better to do let’s fill this out. So I don’t think Gen Z is entirely set to be conservative, however I do think their elders have been heavily gearing up to try and brainwash them with their archaic mindset. I don’t particularly see a reason why a group of highschoolers would campaign for conservatives otherwise.

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      Gen Z right-wing? Wikipedia could be wrong, but:

      Generation Z is generally alike to Millennials on political and social issues.[5] Generation Z has been reported to be “progressive and pro-government”,[6] though this narrative has occasionally been challenged, particularly in Europe. The generation is largely in favor of LGBT rights, gender equality, and access to abortion. Economically, Generation Z has a more favorable outlook on socialism than previous generations. Gen Z varies largely by country on whether to make it easier for legal migrants to live and work in their home countries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Generation_Z#:~:text=Generation Z has been reported,equality%2C and access to abortion.

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    Adversity builds strength which is why I’m typing this doing one armed push ups in the snow