Warnings of Iran Invasion Grow as US to Send Up to 5,000 Marines, Sailors to Middle East
Looks like they changed up the headline on you:
“Warnings of Iran Invasion Grow as US to Send Up to 5,000 Marines, Sailors to Middle East”
We require the headlines to match, but I always give a reasonable amount of time to fix it before we pull the post.
This rule would be impossible with the BBC articles lately. They keep changing the headlines every like 15 minutes, it’s horrendous.
They keep changing the headlines every like 15 minutes, it’s horrendous.
Unfortunately, a lot of other websites keep doing it . And not only for marked “live” updates. Sometimes they include the revisions, but nowadays they don’t even show that. Only way to handle this is (for OP) to check regularly the titles of your posted articles, especially when they are only a couple mins old . Its a bother.
Sounds like a problem automation can fix. Maybe a bot that periodically check the source material’s headline and revise the headline on Lemmy while keeping a history of changes. Might have it check the headline for a day so that it’s not checking the same post forever.
It’s a serious problem with anything marked “Live Coverage!” too. Every update changes the headline.
Which is why I always give OPs a chance to fix it. When I post one myself, I’m re-checking it every time I go in to read new comments.
The only thing really forbidden are headlines that are obviously editorialized.
Least we can change post titles here.
Sounds fair, its insane news articles read like Twitter feeds these days.
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That’s gonna be a monstruos cluster fuck. Iran is not Venezuela. They’ve been preparing for this for a long time. Iran geography is no joke neither. And getting near the cost for deployment…
This is not going to be a full scale invasion. For that they need way more soldiers. 5000 is enough to take some islands, run some raids on the coast or do some special ops bs. If they send more we maybe see something bigger.
Oh they might be intending to capture that strait to minesweep it and open it back up. Which will probably continuously cost lives of those holding it while boats get targeted by drones anyways.
Kharg is the most likely. 90% of Irans oil exports go through that island and the US has just bombed it hard, while the units currently moved are specialized in taking islands. Other then that in the Strait of Hormuz Abu Musa, Greater and Lesser Tunbs are decent targets, as the UAE claims them and taking them would be useful to secure shipping a bit better.
If you wanted to secure the Strait somewhat Hormozgan province would have to be taken. With a population of nearly 2million, that is not going to happen with 5000 men. Maybe raids though.
never get involved in a land war in Asia
I’m sure who ever said that was joking and everything will be fine.
Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.
As you wish.
Its not a war until Trump announces the invasion to reporters while playing golf.
And he must finish the announcement with “Now watch this drive”.
As is tradition for invading middle eastern countries.
That is the protocol.
Trump can only wish he were as slick as Bush
It’s Vietnam all over again.
WRONG. Iran is desert, not jungle, dumbass.
(I hope it’s clear I’m being silly at you. Because I am. Being silly at you.)
It’s fucking grim how predictable all of this is.
And they are mugging us off as if we can’t see exactly what this is.
Battle group, USS Tripoli, is 2400 marines and 2600 sailors spread around 5-8 ships.
Iran will heavily commit to a Waterloo event, and 99-1 that will be outcome if they go beyond Oman, and they are still strikable in Oman.
Oh hey it’s that time again
I thought for sure this would be “Bomb Iran” or “BYOB”, but Tom Lehrer is a welcome surprise XD
There is literally no way this can end badly
Mission accomplished
Right?
5000 marines dying for a man who raped and then murdered and then ate tiny little baby children.
Damn, what a way to go.
I doubt 5000 marines are going to die in Iran. We might loss a few hundred… But that is going to be 5000 marines that are away from their families for a long time. That’s going to be billions of dollars spent supporting those Marines. Most importantly, it’s going to be tens, if not hundreds of thousand of people in Iran killed in an invasion.
Iraq and Afghanistan were costly, and lengthy failures for the US, and we had fucking plans for how to deal with them. There is no fucking way the clown cabal running the government right now had any kind of plan for a stable and independent Iran after this.
Like missile defense systems that are being canibalized out of Asia to serve Israel, this is Japan “defensive” assets that will be kamikazeed onto Iran.
did they not learn from the 80s when they were fighting the soviets with the mujahadeen, and then desert storm, and then the bush wars in the ME, oh and this all helps ISRAEl. currently this has been helping russia, since TRUMP lifted sanctions on them today.
all this was a way to HELP putin without directly lifting sanctions, he needed a “reason to do it” and that reason why iran war caused oil to increase in price.
Americans don’t learn.
They learnt only from the Iraq war as defined by the period the W defines as the war
Or the 90a
Or the 00s
Ah ha! The clever way of helping Putin by letting him invade when not president, then getting him to blow up his own pipeline and bridge, then getting sanctions put on him, to cleverly let Putin have a few crumbs years later…
Indeed, the perfidy knows no bounds.
You “Russia Russia Russia” people realize we can’t even predict weather a few days in advance despite immense computing resources, but you think someone can predict human actions like Hari Seldon?
Jesus fucking Christ we’re a hopeless species.
Well, the Asimov reference was a pleasant surprise in there, just want to say. heh
The president is conpromised by Putin, nobody with their head outside of the billionaires’ ass should be unawares of that at this point. The above commenter however didn’t mention that the Israelis also have him, and his pals, compromised.
It really is like that.
Here’s hoping for a spike in coffins draped in American flags
Maybe a new flag could be designed and made especially for them. A gold one with the words “Lol, I died to distract you all from the Epstein files!”
Or something like that.
Spare the Marines and send ICE, think millions in savings not having to pay out those deferred signing bonuses.
Putin playbook
sanctions were just lifted today on russia apparently, when the oil prices rose sky high because of the iran war. putin likely colluded with trump .
Wanna take bets that trump is getting kickbacks from Venezuela’s oil sales? Iran said they were going to make oil cost 200 dollars a barrel and I bet trump just heard a ka-ching sound and his eye turned into $$ like a fucking cartoon.
Same same
The window of opportunity to get out of this situation in the USA is closing fast, and if it’s not seized soon, this mess is going to last decades, assuming a lot of deaths and an absurd amount of money that the country no longer has like it did decades ago. The shit is going to fall on everyone.
I’m pretty sure the window is already closed. This is our second war with Iran in under a year. Both of which were started by the US/Israel; while we were actively negotiating with Iran. After the first war, we bragged about how the negotiation was a genius move by us to catch Iran with a surprise attack. The last time we had a major treaty with Iran, we unilaterally tore it up; and none of the other signatories stepped up to try and make Iran whole.
The 12 day war ended when we decided to end it. Iran agreed because no one likes getting bombed, and they assumed we had done all we had the stomach to do. However, this type of stop-and-go conflict massively favors the US. Iran’s strength lies in a sustained war of attrition. Deplete our air defense systems faster than we can resupply them. Disrupt the oil market long enough to cause global shortages. Draw us into a war against an insurgency. None of this is effective if they let us decide when the conflict pauses.
Their actions show this. Mining the straight of Hormuz and bombing oil fields are not the type of action you take for a conflict you don’t plan on lasting. Appoint the son of the leader we assisinated as your new leader. Those are decisions that will take months to reverse.
Also, I should mention that the current leader of Iran just had his family killed by us. And Iran was just in the middle of an internal political crisis that conveniently goes away in the face of an external one.
I don’t see how we get Iran to agree to end the war without us offering some major concessions.
Short of offering Trump’s heads on a platter, I do not think Iran would consider any overture to be sincere. Or the world, for that matter.
this type of stop-and-go conflict massively favors the US
good analysis, but this is false, because Iranian missile/drone production is higher than US’s, and so it recovers faster than US. JDAM production capacity is high though, even if 2026 budget is only for 2300, and are dependent on rare earths. 2026 budget cost is $80k/unit.
The consumable on the US side is interceptors, not missiles. Iran’s ability to land hits goes up dramatically once we are out of them.
It closed when we assassinated the former head of state and the entire family of the new head of state along with a few hundred children.
It will already last decades, trust with nearly all countries in the
regionworld is ruined.But yes, get out ASAP, for damage control…
I foresee this escalating and getting worse, leading to some catastrophic nonsense that puts our species to shame in only a matter of months.
We’re running out of helium, the strategic oil reserves are at most 20% of what’s needed, and now that wells are capped it’s to take months to get back.
As this continues Trump will get madder, dementia-ier, and try and escalate more.
The odds of Trump trying to nuke someone is higher than 0%. My nation has contracted rabies. 😰
Their only strategy is to escalate and try to look stronger.
Now, the US military is not something to scoff at, but they’ll eventually end up escalating to nukes and threats of nukes, because there’s no way to win.
What does running out of helium mean though? Bush auctioned off the helium supply for no good reason, they get it from like natural gas in Texas, but also now like South Africa or something.
semiconductors is most critical industry. US is an equal producer to Qatar (33% of supply each), and it is made from LNG (part that doesn’t liquify) byproduct.
We aren’t running out of Helium. The date at which a specific reservoir gets sold is coming closer.
Technically we are. We won’t be out in our lifetimes, to my knowledge, but we aren’t making more helium. Once its gone, its gone. So, it is running out, but on what time scale?
When will the human race start slowing down? Its eventually just going to get crazy expensive and only used when vital. And we’re filling party balloons with it.
Isn’t this about purity or something and the helium used for party balloons wouldn’t be used in critical applications either way?
The moon has a butload, if the scarcity becomes threatening there be enough financial motivation to mine it there.
I believe it’s in more natural gas than just the stuff in parts of texas. South Africa somewhere has some if I recall.
The US already sold their reserves.
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Imagine if they have nukes… It would be darkly comical.
Would it be comical? If they had nukes and were backed into a corner they would likely use them.
In fact we can infer from US/Israel’s willingness to attack now that their intelligence must be telling them that they do not have nukes.
If Iran had nukes none of this would be happening.
Putin has nukes. Even he is not stupid enough to use them without a major setback.
Putin is a lot of things, stupid is not one.
I am pretty sure that now, right in this moment, somewhere in a deep bunker, Iranian scientists are frantically working to produce a bomb.
I am shocked that america isn’t 24/7 protests.
There’s shitloads of protests going on over the matter, actually, but much like the protests against all the rest of Trump’s bullshit and especially ICE, you wouldn’t catch the media covering any of them, despite them being nigh-constant.
Show me. Why isn’t lemmy full of protests?
They can stop many news outlets, but not all of them. Not all social media platforms.
The protests are small and insignificant.
They should be massive. Like the trucker convoy in Canada was.
You mean that one time a bunch of Canadians drove in a line?
Compared to that time a protest was staged across an area the size of Europe? From small towns with a few dozen people to capital cities? And then again? And again?
These were all literally a quick Google search away. And you know what? Almost all of them are from last year, from a couple of cities out of those national protests, because our media is captured and it’s very difficult to find photos of the people scaring off ICE attempting to snatch people in broad daylight or the masses of abandoned cars in Chicago - some of them still running - from all the ICE raids. Or the community watch groups that have sprouted up to track where ICE agents are in the city. I couldn’t find a single picture of the protests from Boston then where there were more protesters in the city than the total population of the city. Most of what I saw was pro-ICE propaganda from news outlets about immigrants in NYC “cheering for ICE after capture of violent gang members” and other nonsense.
You should educate yourself more about the subject. Because you obviously have no fucking clue what the trucker convoy protest was.
Your little walking parades are not protests. The trucker convoy was a real protest.
I’ve been following American politics very closely. I am very educated on it. You have no fucking idea what you’re talking about.
Oh, so you can dish it out but can’t take it when someone else handwaves away your effort?
I’m a trans woman living in the US. I absolutely know what I’m talking about. I’ve been keeping up with politics since I was a pre-teen just so I could know what rights of mine were being stripped away in which states. I’m illegal in 41+ countries in the world and 20 states in my own country.
Keep thumping your chest about your little Sunday drive while people are chasing ICE agents out of their neighborhoods.
But good to know this man never led a “real protest.”
Americans have a unique way of protesting enshrined in the constitution. They aren’t using it
I have been able to talk some of my neighbors into at least saying that we’ll stand together should ICE comes. But getting them to cross state lines? Or even do a Rent/Mortgage strike is just too many steps too far for most of them. Especially when take into account that it’s days of travel, and you still need money for food and gas. Also our families needs food, shelter, and so on.
Surviving even at selfish costs, is unfortunately the Las Vegan way.
I at the very least thought a Rent/Mortgage strike would appeal to those selfish and apathetic, but somehow a strike that keeps your resources in your pocket is less liked than a General Strike that you have build resources for ahead of time. And arguing that we should encourage our homeless population to just take up homes that are sitting empty due to corps buying up houses for renting out was… well let’s just say I have to wait until people are more fed up before I can bring up that particular strategy again.
Hell getting people to go armed to protests has been met with hard no’s even after I point out how different police act when people are armed. And that all you need to do is look at the Bundy Ranch standoff to see how much different police treat those that are armed. (The police at the time came in unarmed, and without body armor to negotiate just so they wouldn’t set off the snipers).
So you want to know why we’re not using the unique way of protesting? Logistics, survival, and because most Americans prefer to be livestock for the Oligarchs than to actually be wolves fighting for our liberty, and will make every excuse to just wait for the slaughter.
I think that if the United States we know are replaced, we will need the new Constitution to enshrine UBI. Part of that should be free fuel, food, and lodgings. By providing such things, it will be much easier for people to protest. Right now, you have to risk losing everything if you dare wander off the corporate reservations.
No work? No agency. Have work? no agency.
We must work towards ensuring agency for every single person.
I’ve been thinking the exact same things. A New Constitution is what is required. Our Founding Fathers always planned for such events, and we were expected to rewrite The Constitution as needed, including upto building completely from new.
IMO, a government should only exist in service to the people, and when it fails at that service it needs to be reformed.
Armed protests don’t always end well. Michigan in the 00’s had a gay libertarian host a legalization of Marijuana petition to get the issue on the ballot, at his Rainbow ranch in like battle creek or something. Police fucked with them and the Michigan Militia showed up to defend them. State police shot the owner of the ranch with a sniper for no good reason after a bit.
Your argument doesn’t hold much water when the alternative currently is letting them haul you and yours to a concentration camp, and are already killing Americans in the street at unarmed protests. Context and the amount of guns being the big difference, as I could not find any evidence that the Michigan Militia was involved. Only mention of them is that they provided unarmed security for the farm before the conflict arose but we’re not present for the actual standoff.
So I’m going to need a source backing up your claims.
It is actually, media ignores them
There are still free social media platforms, and they aren’t showing protests.
Wed see them on lemme, if it was 24/7 protests, so, you are not correct.
Most Americans are still not personally affected.
All the ones that know what’s happening are aware they are losing their freedom.
Im not bothered by maga or ignorant people not doing anything.
Its all the people that know what is happening. That think posting “release the Epstein files” will help. It would if they did it on congress’ front lawn, but not in their echo chambers.
They don’t understand they are.
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Fuck off with that. Yes we are.
What did you do about it today?
What are you, a fed? Fuck off.
Sorry for expecting people who pretend to care about the murderous regime running their country to do something about it.
Expect to get painted with the same brush if you don’t even bother to be different from them.
First rule of operational security: if you’re going to do something, don’t tell anyone that you’re going to do something. Especially on social media/someplace with easily traceable records.
How about you start blaming German Jews for letting Hitler start WW2 next?
The majority of your country either voted for this, or sat at home okay with whatever outcome.
It absolutely did not, by such wide margin you’re just straight up trying to start shit. If we count all the votes trump got as legit (which is increasingly looking like complete bullshit), even then he barely got 33% of the eligible vote.
He lost the popular vote, even with absolutely COLOSSAL amounts of voter disenfranchisement preventing Democratic voters from even voting in the first place, and a shitload of their votes being invalidated or even just outright thrown away, and we still don’t know how much damage Musk did with his control over the polling machines.
Don’t blame me, I voted for kodos.
Yes we are. It’s also ordered by Israel. They have been stealing our money for ages.
Stealing by accepting it when your country sends it to them?
They have a lobbyist organization that controls our gov. AIPAC. Basically, give money to legislators so that they send funding to your country. I assume there is only one answer that makes them not a Mossad target. Anyways, Americans have been sick of war since before I was born. Literally no side of politics agrees with aid to Israel. There are a few crazies that do, but even most Trumpers here are not on board with it. I’m in the deep red South and even here Republicans have complained about Israel since I was a kid. Obviously liberals hate giving aid to Israel, but the Dems politicians are bought by the time they run for office. Even Kamala supported Israel. It’s a mess. So if we have taxation and no representation, that’s stealing.
I see, so they are stealing my giving money to American politicians.
It’s going to be an amazing day when Americans discover that the kinship between Israel and America isn’t bought, it’s simply the shared heritage of two nations born from genocide and corruption.
You annihilated an entire race to exist, why shouldn’t they? That’s your bond, the brotherhood of monsters.
It didn’t have the money then, either. It just printed it and ballooned the national debt. I’m sure the global oligarch class will be happy to buy more US treasury bonds while the congress raises the debt ceiling again.
the window was during the bush wars, and then the collapse of 08
“Up to”
My penis is up to 5000:inches
